Suicide

The psychological exam they put us through is
fine for us but what about our spouces? A friend from
high school had this surgery last year and on Saturday
her husband shot himself in their home. He was
becoming very insecure with her new body, new lease on
life, new attitude, and newfound happiness. He was very
insecure about everything and it was causing alot of
issues between them. They decided to split while it was
all being sorted. He could not handle the change in
her, even though it was all change for the better.<br>
I have found that alot of men that marry overweight
women, do so because they feel there is a certain
security about them. Maybe they will be more likely to
remain faithful, or make better wives if they are
"homebodies". What happens when all the sudden this overweight,

depressed and couch potato of a wife becomes desirable to
other men, active and social? How are the men expected
to deal with this?<br> I had surgery on 11/5, and my
husband followed my lead on 2/3. We are going through
this as a team, but I still see alot of insecurity in
him. Sometimes he will say, "whats going to happen
when your fit and beautiful and you meet someone
better?"<br>Ladies…. before surgery you really have to ask yourself a
few questions. 1) Will the changes in my life exclude
or include my spouse? 2) How will my spouse deal
with an ENTIRELY different wife?<br> I really think
these psychological evals should include the spouses
since they are effected just as much. <br> I love my
husband dearly but I already see differences in what Im
becoming. I want to make friends, and see the planet, and
conquer the world. I want to be beautiful and I want to
have a life for once. Im getting there. He doesnt like
it one bit. Hes losing weight too, but he is very
intreverted by nature and would rather see the world through
his PC then in real life. What am I to do, when the
changes in me are so VERY profound. I cant leave him
behind and feel good about it, but I cant live the life
of a fat depressed woman anymore either. Will he
kill himself? Will your husband?<br> Consider all of
this ladies. Its a problem for alot of women Ive
talked to.

6 Responses to “Suicide”

  1. Neva Marjory Says:

    I can definately understand how the other partner
    would feel. I am not married and just recently told my
    boyfriend that I was considering this. His ex-wife left him
    after she lost a considerable amount of weight. He is
    very supportive though and said he wants me to be
    happy. My son is somewhat concerned about how this would
    affect him. He freaked out when I told him there
    wouldn’t be snacks in the house! ;) He is somewhat
    overweight also, and I explained that we would have to eat
    better snacks, healthier ones. He is very supportive for
    11 yrs. and is very excited about starting an
    excercise program. Thanks for the advice. Linda

  2. Neva Marjory Says:

    I do believe you have a good point there. Every
    marriage is different, so end result will be different, I
    guess the best thing is to be considerate of your
    partner’s feelings. Counseling (just communicating) works
    wonders, alievates fears and brings us closer. I am
    thinking my husband may want to show me off, or at least I
    am hoping. I tease him about how I will look, and
    will he bring me home some sexy lingerie? As I will
    WANT to wear it for him! I think we will be able to do
    all the things together that he does alone because
    currently I am too embarrassed to go. But your topic is
    definitly something to discuss with the spouse!

  3. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hi Stclaire2000<br><br>Before I start let me say
    this is my opinion only. I am in the process of having
    Lap RNY I am 5′1 and weight 325 pounds.<br><br>I
    weighted 200 when my husband and I married 15years
    ago.<br><br>I didn’t like myself before I met him and I didn’t
    learn to like myself till I realized that being
    overweight was not entirely my fault.<br><br>Other than not
    liking myself which I have never displayed to anyone
    else but myself. I am a jolly person who loves to
    laugh and help other people.<br><br>My husband has
    loved me……always every ounce. Which I have always
    found remarkable. <br><br>He has always stood by me
    when my own family mother included have ridiculed me
    for my weight. When I was 6 months pregnant the nurse
    was very rude to me and he put her in her

    place.<br><br>He has always let me know that I am his everything.
    I have wanted this surgery for years and it took
    him two solid years to finally get his
    approval.<br><br>Because he had to see me through my eyes. You see I am
    and have always been a strong independent woman. I
    went to ultrasound school, a month after giving birth
    to my second child. I also had a three year old at
    the time. I went to school full time during the day.
    Took care of my girls and at 10pm at night worked
    part-time till 2:00am and redid the cycle for 2 solid
    years.<br><br>So he has always seen me as a strong woman who could
    do anything if I applied myself.<br><br>But I can’t
    lose the weight. And my health is deteriorating. He
    finally came to terms with this operation. He knows it is
    for the best.<br><br>What I am trying to say is that.
    For the ninteen years, he has loved me, stood by me
    and supported me through thick and thicker. As I
    gained the One hundred and eighty pounds. He did not
    leave me for another. Even as we grew apart, because I
    was ashamed of myself. He always stood by
    me.<br><br>If I were to lose the weight and do the things that
    I have only fantasized thinking only of myself
    would that be fair??????<br><br>I don’t think so…
    Sometimes because we don’t like ourselves we settle into
    making someone else happy.<br><br>The same way, I was
    insecure all these years and he always gave me a little
    more extra attention to make me feel secure. That is
    what we have to do in return.<br><br>It is hard for
    anyone to deal with change. Any kind of change is a
    threat and always is an insecure feeling. <br><br>Be
    aware of it. Shower your spouse with more affection.
    For every pound you lose work on making it work.
    Remember you are the one that is changing. This is what
    you want. The problem starts when you want them to
    change. If he has never been a romantic don’t expect it.
    If he has never been active don’t expect it. If he
    doesn’t want to change his eating habits don’t fight over
    it. YOU are the one that changed…..<br><br>If you
    couldn’t stop eating<br>If you weren’t active<br>If you
    weren’t more loving or romantic and they didn’t try to
    change you, why would you want them
    too…………<br><br>I’m sorry to hear about your friends spouse.
    Obviously there was more there than we know.<br><br>P.S.
    Men don’t marry big women because they will be
    faithful, or are undesirable to other men, or make better
    housewife.<br><br>They marry them because there beautiful, desirable,
    and intelligent.

  4. Neva Marjory Says:

    One word…"WOW!"

  5. Neva Marjory Says:

    I totally agree with the statement that our
    spouses should also have a psych evaluation prior to our
    surgeries. Now I had my hubby come with me during mine and
    all he said was he wants me to feel better ect. But
    now as surgery day is approaching he’s acting weird.
    He’s all clingy, want’s to know where I’ve been every
    second of the day and even pops in on me at work like
    he’s checking to make sure no men are talking to me.
    I’ve told him he needs to go see my shrink and work
    out his fears because I know that’s what it is. He’s
    afraid I’ll leave him after I lose the weight. I keep
    telling him no way. He’s also going to have a problem
    with men paying attention to me. This may sound
    egotistic but I know I will look good around Christmas and
    he can’t even handle men talking to me now. I have

    another psych appt. May 15 so I’m gonna take him with me
    again and maybe start working on HIS
    issues.<br><br>Cynthia<br>Pre-op<br>Open RNY<br>June 2, 2000

  6. Neva Marjory Says:

    Hi Cynthia<br><br>You haven’t had the surgery
    yet, and you already noticed a change in your
    husband.<br><br>Maybe because my husband and I have a very open
    communication that I can speak on a man’s view on this
    operation.<br><br>I have not had the operation yet, and I too felt a
    change in him more attentive showering me with gifts and
    wanting to take me out dinning. <br><br>Things that
    normaly we would be happy to eat at home. Rent
    blockbuster movies. One call a day before he came home to let
    me know he was on his way.<br><br>#1. I was
    switching focus from him and the kids to just
    me.<br><br>#2. I was obsessed with four support groups, specking
    to everyone and anyone on line.<br><br>#3. I was
    really to busy to be bothered and I figured, this was my
    time and I was due this. So obviously, I didn’t take

    the extra attention for what it was.<br><br>I was
    changing. I had packed my family for this train ride by
    letting them know that I wanted it and why. They agreed
    and packed also.<br><br>But I was leaving them at the
    terminal to take the next train. (Oh they could take the
    next train and catch up.<br><br>I was being
    selfish.<br><br>A spouse does what comes natural. There just trying
    to find out were they fit in a changing
    enviroment.<br><br>Why do I say this. He use to say things like you know
    you don’t have to have this surgery. I love you the
    way you are. Your a great mother. Are you sure you
    want to have this surgery? Then one day he said we
    should take a family picture while we still can. That
    hit me hard. When I asked my husband what’s up with
    all this take me out bussiness. A trip to walt
    disney, I told him he was just smothering me. Do you
    think I’m gonna leave you…cause I’m not!!!<br><br>He
    stood silent and looked at me. He said <br>What if your
    that one percent. How am I suppose to go on without
    you. What about me and the kids(WE have two daughters
    12 and 8).<br><br>I was thinking of me…<br><br>He
    was thinking of me…<br><br>Remember this operation
    is a risk. One that we take for granted and are
    willing to take. Because we have lived with it have
    always been miserable inside of it. We see it as our
    last hope to have a normal life.<br><br>Your true
    loved ones can’t see past the operation only the
    risks.<br><br>Since this conversation with him. We have grown more
    closer than I ever though imaginable.<br><br>He’s on the
    train with me now, sitting with me at my side. I stop
    obscessing over the operation. I only participate in this
    supportgroup that has been wonderful.<br><br>We talk more and
    love more.<br><br>And I see my operation, thru his
    eyes….<br><br>Remember in a marriage you evolve in time.<br><br>With
    this operation you change physically, mentally, and
    spiritually in 6 months. Gosh it takes two hundred miles to
    break in new brakes.<br><br>It takes 40 weeks for a
    person to be developed and born.<br><br>Before you even
    though of this operation. Would you have liked it if he
    said to you, you need to have your head examined. I’m
    not gonna leave you?<br><br>Put yourself in his
    place.<br><br>Find out what’s really bothering
    him..<br><br><br>Don’t leave your loved one behind…..<br><br>again I
    just want to say this is my opinion only.<br><br>Take
    care Nancy

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