hello and help if you can!!
hi all,
my name is frannie, i am only 50 pounds overweight, so i am not
considered obese by medical standards…yet. i was wondering if any
of you people had tried Zetacap? does it work? i am desperqte to lose
weight. i have tried atkins, low fat, high fat. vegan. everything and
i can lose it! i am not buig enough for the gastric bypass and i need
help! any one try zetacap yet? what to do?
May 19th, 2006 at 9:22 am
Frannie, I have not tried it, and since this is a group for people who have
had surgery, or who are having surgery, and who are using that particular tool
to manage their weight, you probably won’t find many here who have used it
and/or found it to be a success. If any of us could have lost weight and kept
it off via dieting and diet pills, we wouldn’t be here <G>.
Good luck on your journey.
Pam
May 19th, 2006 at 11:51 am
I would have to agree with Pam.
If there was a pill out there that worked, this support group wouldn’t be
needed.
I don’t know about this pill, but more then anything else, cut down on your
serving portions. Drink water, excursive.
Good luck
Frannie, I have not tried it, and since this is a group for people who have
had surgery, or who are having surgery, and who are using that particular
tool
to manage their weight, you probably won’t find many here who have used it
and/or found it to be a success. If any of us could have lost weight and
kept
it off via dieting and diet pills, we wouldn’t be here <G>.
Good luck on your journey.
Pam
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May 19th, 2006 at 9:33 pm
hi all,
my name is frannie, i am only 50 pounds overweight, so i am not
considered obese by medical standards…yet. i was wondering if any
of you people had tried Zetacap? does it work? i am desperqte to lose
weight. i have tried atkins, low fat, high fat. vegan. everything and
i can lose it! i am not buig enough for the gastric bypass and i need
help! any one try zetacap yet? what to do?
May 20th, 2006 at 2:54 am
hi all,
my name is frannie, i am only 50 pounds overweight, so i am not
considered obese by medical standards…yet. i was wondering if any
of you people had tried Zetacap? does it work? i am desperqte to lose
weight. i have tried atkins, low fat, high fat. vegan. everything and
i can lose it! i am not buig enough for the gastric bypass and i need
help! any one try zetacap yet? what to do?
May 20th, 2006 at 5:01 am
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 20th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 20th, 2006 at 6:56 pm
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 20th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had an RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of us with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries - all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will have to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 21st, 2006 at 5:38 am
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries - all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 21st, 2006 at 8:55 am
I am not sure who posted this last statement because they didnt’ right or sign
there name to their email. What I have to say to you is I hope you never post in
this group again. I feel that your negative talk in this last email made me feel
like dirt. I am overweight and awaiting approval for this surgery. I know that I
tell myself every morning that I am not going to eat unhealthy foods. However
some days my stomach doesn’t feel the same way as my brain does. I hope that
after surgery this will change and my stomach won’t feel the need for the
sugars. I say I hope because if it does then I may eat sugars before I realize
what I have done. I know this is going to be a difficult surgery. I also know
that after 31 years of eating unhealthy that I may eat sugar before I have even
thought about it. I can only hope that if this happens the dumping syndrome will
kick in. Perhaps then my stomach will listen to what my brain is saying. You do
not seem like someone who has suffered obesity or
perhaps you are so bitter from it that it lets you talk so cruely. I hope for
your own sake that you take a hard look at yourself and learn to speak your mind
without sounding like a jerk. Also learn to spell.
Diana
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries - all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 21st, 2006 at 4:20 pm
hi you have some nerve telling me to learn to spell. i didnt do a spell
check and if you look at your first line you used the wrong "WRITE"
example.
I am always "right".
you do not know how to "write" a letter
didnt’..hmm.. the apostrophy goes between the n and the t.
just for your information does critize what you cant do yourself. i made
mistakes as im sure you did.
second i was stateing my opinion as you are yours. and i thank you for your
opinion. that i need to take it.. umm no i dont
just like you dont need to take my opinion.
thirdly if you go eat sugar and not know ti then there is a problem and you
need to see someone about that. because everything you do you know about
unless your on drugs or just not with it. so if you do things without
knowing you need to see someone about that. as for being a jerk. i didnt
call you names dont call me names.
lets act like adults thanks.
and if you dont like what im saying dont respond its that easy:)
I am not sure who posted this last statement because they didnt’ right or
sign there name to their email. What I have to say to you is I hope you
never post in this group again. I feel that your negative talk in this last
email made me feel like dirt. I am overweight and awaiting approval for this
surgery. I know that I tell myself every morning that I am not going to eat
unhealthy foods. However some days my stomach doesn’t feel the same way as
my brain does. I hope that after surgery this will change and my stomach
won’t feel the need for the sugars. I say I hope because if it does then I
may eat sugars before I realize what I have done. I know this is going to be
a difficult surgery. I also know that after 31 years of eating unhealthy
that I may eat sugar before I have even thought about it. I can only hope
that if this happens the dumping syndrome will kick in. Perhaps then my
stomach will listen to what my brain is saying. You do not seem like someone
who has suffered obesity or
perhaps you are so bitter from it that it lets you talk so cruely. I hope
for your own sake that you take a hard look at yourself and learn to speak
your mind without sounding like a jerk. Also learn to spell.
Diana
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has
not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries - all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 21st, 2006 at 9:40 pm
hi you have some nerve telling me to learn to spell. i didnt do a spell
check and if you look at your first line you used the wrong "WRITE"
example.
I am always "right".
you do not know how to "write" a letter
didnt’..hmm.. the apostrophy goes between the n and the t.
just for your information does critize what you cant do yourself. i made
mistakes as im sure you did.
second i was stateing my opinion as you are yours. and i thank you for
your
opinion. that i need to take it.. umm no i dont
just like you dont need to take my opinion.
thirdly if you go eat sugar and not know ti then there is a problem and
you
need to see someone about that. because everything you do you know about
unless your on drugs or just not with it. so if you do things without
knowing you need to see someone about that. as for being a jerk. i didnt
call you names dont call me names.
lets act like adults thanks.
and if you dont like what im saying dont respond its that easy:)
I am not sure who posted this last statement because they didnt’ right
or
sign there name to their email. What I have to say to you is I hope you
never post in this group again. I feel that your negative talk in this
last
email made me feel like dirt. I am overweight and awaiting approval for
this
surgery. I know that I tell myself every morning that I am not going to
eat
unhealthy foods. However some days my stomach doesn’t feel the same way as
my brain does. I hope that after surgery this will change and my stomach
won’t feel the need for the sugars. I say I hope because if it does then I
may eat sugars before I realize what I have done. I know this is going to
be
a difficult surgery. I also know that after 31 years of eating unhealthy
that I may eat sugar before I have even thought about it. I can only hope
that if this happens the dumping syndrome will kick in. Perhaps then my
stomach will listen to what my brain is saying. You do not seem like
someone
who has suffered obesity or
perhaps you are so bitter from it that it lets you talk so cruely. I
hope
for your own sake that you take a hard look at yourself and learn to speak
your mind without sounding like a jerk. Also learn to spell.
Diana
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had
an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of
us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has
not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always
be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because
our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries -
all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will
have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 21st, 2006 at 11:07 pm
These comments are extremely offensive. Didn’t we just have someone post
recently regarding the intention of this group to be support & encouragement???
I come to these groups for information & support. Two people can have different
ideas & opinions without being combative. Pam was able to convey her opinion in
a very respectful & non-offensive manner….it’s a shame that not everyone in
these groups are able to do the same.
Michelle in Cranberry
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries - all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:19 am
I did read what you wrote. That is why I stated my opinion back at you. It seems
it is you that can’t take criticism. I realized I used the incorrect grammar on
the word right. That was an error for me not proof reading. I was also stating
my opinion to you being a jerk. I never said any of what I said was a fact.
Except that there are times you can take a bite of food just out of habit and
without thinking. That is a fact because I have seen several people write about
how they had to be scoped because they popped some food in their mouth without
thinking and swallowed. That is my only fact in the previous posting. I still
think you are a jerk. I am an adult as I assume you are also. I was responding
to comments you made as is my right. If you don’t like what I wrote then don’t
answer or better yet don’t read them I don’t care. This is a free country and I
have a right to state how I feel about what someone else has written in this
group. That is what makes it a group.
Diana
hi you have some nerve telling me to learn to spell. i didnt do a spell
check and if you look at your first line you used the wrong "WRITE"
example.
I am always "right".
you do not know how to "write" a letter
didnt’..hmm.. the apostrophy goes between the n and the t.
just for your information does critize what you cant do yourself. i made
mistakes as im sure you did.
second i was stateing my opinion as you are yours. and i thank you for
your
opinion. that i need to take it.. umm no i dont
just like you dont need to take my opinion.
thirdly if you go eat sugar and not know ti then there is a problem and
you
need to see someone about that. because everything you do you know about
unless your on drugs or just not with it. so if you do things without
knowing you need to see someone about that. as for being a jerk. i didnt
call you names dont call me names.
lets act like adults thanks.
and if you dont like what im saying dont respond its that easy:)
I am not sure who posted this last statement because they didnt’ right
or
sign there name to their email. What I have to say to you is I hope you
never post in this group again. I feel that your negative talk in this
last
email made me feel like dirt. I am overweight and awaiting approval for
this
surgery. I know that I tell myself every morning that I am not going to
eat
unhealthy foods. However some days my stomach doesn’t feel the same way as
my brain does. I hope that after surgery this will change and my stomach
won’t feel the need for the sugars. I say I hope because if it does then I
may eat sugars before I realize what I have done. I know this is going to
be
a difficult surgery. I also know that after 31 years of eating unhealthy
that I may eat sugar before I have even thought about it. I can only hope
that if this happens the dumping syndrome will kick in. Perhaps then my
stomach will listen to what my brain is saying. You do not seem like
someone
who has suffered obesity or
perhaps you are so bitter from it that it lets you talk so cruely. I
hope
for your own sake that you take a hard look at yourself and learn to speak
your mind without sounding like a jerk. Also learn to spell.
Diana
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had
an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of
us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has
not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always
be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because
our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries -
all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will
have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 22nd, 2006 at 11:39 am
Michelle,
I thank you for posting what I was trying to say in a previous email. I just
went about it the wrong way I guess. I agree with what you said about the below
email. I am sorry if follow up emails upset you in my response to the gonzalez
emails.
Diana
I come to these groups for information & support. Two people can have different
ideas & opinions without being combative. Pam was able to convey her opinion in
a very respectful & non-offensive manner….it’s a shame that not everyone in
these groups are able to do the same.
Michelle in Cranberry
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries - all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 22nd, 2006 at 4:38 pm
Play nice or you all will get spankings! How long did you all stay off work
after WLS?
I did read what you wrote. That is why I stated my opinion back at you. It seems
it is you that can’t take criticism. I realized I used the incorrect grammar on
the word right. That was an error for me not proof reading. I was also stating
my opinion to you being a jerk. I never said any of what I said was a fact.
Except that there are times you can take a bite of food just out of habit and
without thinking. That is a fact because I have seen several people write about
how they had to be scoped because they popped some food in their mouth without
thinking and swallowed. That is my only fact in the previous posting. I still
think you are a jerk. I am an adult as I assume you are also. I was responding
to comments you made as is my right. If you don’t like what I wrote then don’t
answer or better yet don’t read them I don’t care. This is a free country and I
have a right to state how I feel about what someone else has written in this
group. That is what makes it a group.!
Diana
hi you have some nerve telling me to learn to spell. i didnt do a spell
check and if you look at your first line you used the wrong "WRITE"
example.
I am always "right".
you do not know how to "write" a letter
didnt’..hmm.. the apostrophy goes between the n and the t.
just for your information does critize what you cant do yourself. i made
mistakes as im sure you did.
second i was stateing my opinion as you are yours. and i thank you for
your
opinion. that i need to take it.. umm no i dont
just like you dont need to take my opinion.
thirdly if you go eat sugar and not know ti then there is a problem and
you
need to see someone about that. because everything you do you know about
unless your on drugs or just not with it. so if you do things without
knowing you need to see someone about that. as for being a jerk. i didnt
call you names dont call me names.
lets act like adults thanks.
and if you dont like what im saying dont respond its that easy:)
I am not sure who posted this last statement because they didnt’ right
or
sign there name to their email. What I have to say to you is I hope you
never post in this group again. I feel that your negative talk in this
last
email made me feel like dirt. I am overweight and awaiting approval for
this
surgery. I know that I tell myself every morning that I am not going to
eat
unhealthy foods. However some days my stomach doesn’t feel the same way as
my brain does. I hope that after surgery this will change and my stomach
won’t feel the need for the sugars. I say I hope because if it does then I
may eat sugars before I realize what I have done. I know this is going to
be
a difficult surgery. I also know that after 31 years of eating unhealthy
that I may eat sugar before I have even thought about it. I can only hope
that if this happens the dumping syndrome will kick in. Perhaps then my
stomach will listen to what my brain is saying. You do not seem like
someone
who has suffered obesity or
perhaps you are so bitter from it that it lets you talk so cruely. I
hope
for your own sake that you take a hard look at yourself and learn to speak
your mind without sounding like a jerk. Also learn to spell.
Diana
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had
an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of
us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has
not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always
be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because
our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries -
all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will
have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
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May 23rd, 2006 at 12:24 am
Play nice or you all will get spankings! How long did you all stay off
work after WLS?
I did read what you wrote. That is why I stated my opinion back at you. It
seems it is you that can’t take criticism. I realized I used the incorrect
grammar on the word right. That was an error for me not proof reading. I was
also stating my opinion to you being a jerk. I never said any of what I said
was a fact. Except that there are times you can take a bite of food just out
of habit and without thinking. That is a fact because I have seen several
people write about how they had to be scoped because they popped some food
in their mouth without thinking and swallowed. That is my only fact in the
previous posting. I still think you are a jerk. I am an adult as I assume
you are also. I was responding to comments you made as is my right. If you
don’t like what I wrote then don’t answer or better yet don’t read them I
don’t care. This is a free country and I have a right to state how I feel
about what someone else has written in this group. That is what makes it a
group.!
Diana
hi you have some nerve telling me to learn to spell. i didnt do a spell
check and if you look at your first line you used the wrong "WRITE"
example.
I am always "right".
you do not know how to "write" a letter
didnt’..hmm.. the apostrophy goes between the n and the t.
just for your information does critize what you cant do yourself. i made
mistakes as im sure you did.
second i was stateing my opinion as you are yours. and i thank you for
your
opinion. that i need to take it.. umm no i dont
just like you dont need to take my opinion.
thirdly if you go eat sugar and not know ti then there is a problem and
you
need to see someone about that. because everything you do you know about
unless your on drugs or just not with it. so if you do things without
knowing you need to see someone about that. as for being a jerk. i didnt
call you names dont call me names.
lets act like adults thanks.
and if you dont like what im saying dont respond its that easy:)
I am not sure who posted this last statement because they didnt’ right
or
sign there name to their email. What I have to say to you is I hope you
never post in this group again. I feel that your negative talk in this
last
email made me feel like dirt. I am overweight and awaiting approval for
this
surgery. I know that I tell myself every morning that I am not going to
eat
unhealthy foods. However some days my stomach doesn’t feel the same way
as
my brain does. I hope that after surgery this will change and my stomach
won’t feel the need for the sugars. I say I hope because if it does then
I
may eat sugars before I realize what I have done. I know this is going
to
be
a difficult surgery. I also know that after 31 years of eating unhealthy
that I may eat sugar before I have even thought about it. I can only
hope
that if this happens the dumping syndrome will kick in. Perhaps then my
stomach will listen to what my brain is saying. You do not seem like
someone
who has suffered obesity or
perhaps you are so bitter from it that it lets you talk so cruely. I
hope
for your own sake that you take a hard look at yourself and learn to
speak
your mind without sounding like a jerk. Also learn to spell.
Diana
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had
an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of
us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc
has
not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always
be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because
our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep
me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries -
all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will
have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont
have
weight problems anymore.
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May 23rd, 2006 at 1:51 am
Hi Diana,
Don’t allow this stuff to get to you or turn you off from the support groups.
Most of the people in these groups are extremely supportive. Unfortunately,
there is always someone who will try to project their own issues onto someone
else & will come across in an offensive way. I know that it’s really hard to
do….but I think the best way to handle them is to ignore them & not stoop to
their level.
You would think that there would be a greater degree of compassion & empathy in
most of us who have have obviously endured some degree of prejudice & judgement
in our pasts due to obesity. Just try to remember that it is THEIR issue & not
yours! And for every person who is rude to you, there are tons of very
supportive & loving members!
Take care,
Michelle in Cranberry
I come to these groups for information & support. Two people can have different
ideas & opinions without being combative. Pam was able to convey her opinion in
a very respectful & non-offensive manner….it’s a shame that not everyone in
these groups are able to do the same.
Michelle in Cranberry
You know, I don’t think things are quite that black and white. I had an
RNY
on 11/20/02. I can eat plenty of sugar (unfortunately <G>). Many of us
with
a gastric bypass can eat sugars. I take no stomach pills, my doc has not
prescribed them, although I do take a lot of vitamins. I will always be
concerned about what I call the "big 8" - those things that must be
supplemented because they are processed in the duodenum, or because our
shortened digestive system can’t extract amounts necessary to keep me
healthy. I don’t count protein grams because I don’t expect to get
protein
from food - I use protein drinks.
We’re all different, even those with RNYs have different surgeries - all
called RNYs. But that said, surgery is not a cakewalk, and we will have
to
be conscious of our foods, our minds, and our bodies the rest of our
lives,
if we want to be healthy and keep our bodies strong.
Pam in Niceville
put on another 50lbs and qualify. Get the surgery and you wont have
weight problems anymore.
May 23rd, 2006 at 12:09 pm
I am asking WHICH moderator thought it appropriate to post this banter back and
forth?? I am dissappointed …I just made a request not more than a day ago to
keep the posts upbeat, positive and non-aggressive in nature. It upsets me to
see grown people act this way in a support group type setting.. if it continues
I will seek my comfort and knowledge elsewhere where they have compassion, and
manners…
Erin Scheck
post op 344/272/Goal 180
(-72)WHoooHoooo
surgery date 04/28/03
May 23rd, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Sadly some got through, trust me we prevented most of it. We are not a
100% moderated forum, only new members are moderated. For those, I stopped
the messages once they started getting out of hand. For existing members
it’s a matter of us catching the message after the fact.
I appologize to all for the exchange that occurred. I hope we can now
return to regularly scheduled support, compassion, love, and fellowship. I
hope no one was too upset by the exchange today, and hope that you can all
forgive us when one of those get through.
Jason
May 24th, 2006 at 1:39 am
Elaine, Elaine, why do you seem so angry? <G> I was just posting that things
are not as black and white as I read in your post. That some people can eat
sugars (not whether they SHOULD - that’s an entirely different matter!) and
that those things don’t necessarily make them vomit. Not all people dump.
All doctors have different plans. Almost all the plans I’ve heard of say
protein first, then vege carbs, then starch carbs - and even an occasional
piece of fruit is allowed. Different docs send patients home from the
hospital eating different things. Some people seem to have a 6 month window of
opportunity, some people have an 18 month - 2 year window. I’ve seen so many
different plans espoused by so many different docs (as reported by their
patients) that I’ve come to the conclusion that there’s no one perfect plan.
There’s just the plan that works for you.
The amount of protein you "should" get depends on the type of surgery you
have. The amount of protein available from the food that you eat differs
depending on the type of surgery you have. As an example, if you’re a distal
RNY patient, you need much, much more protein that you’ve mentioned. Your
numbers are for adequate for proximal patients.
Hang out, there may be things here for you to learn. Offer to share from your
experience. Let us know what it’s like for you at 6 months, a year, 2 years
out, and we’ll let you know what it’s like for us at those same dates.
We are here to support each other. We are here to share our experiences, in a
supportive fashion. But mostly we are here to support each other.
Pam in Niceville
May 24th, 2006 at 5:41 pm
Diana, since sugars are in so many of our prepared foods, it’s always possible
to get more than you should, accidently, particularly when you eat out. We
just need to be aware, and when we’ve made a mistake, go from there and do
differently the next time. I know I prayed that I would have the tendency to
dump. Didn’t happen this surgery. Oh, well. <G> I would have liked blonde hair
as a teen, too. <G>
The best thing about this surgery for me was finding that I wasn’t hungry all
the time. I did have to face head hunger. That happens. I do have to face the
tendency to want to eat if I’m anxious (now). But the first 6 months, I didn’t
even have to face that. Now, at least, I have some choices <G>. I think
that’s the best part of this surgery is that it is a tool. It’s scary because
for so long we’ve felt out of control (at least I did) and it was hard to
trust that I could ever be back in control. I’m much more in control now than
I ever was pre-surgery.
Let’s face it, we all have a disease - obesity - it’s as much a physiological
process as it is an emotional one. I do think that at some point, they’ll
discover more and more that there are genetics at play - not the genetics of
like parent like child, but the genetics of missing a gene here that causes us
to feel saiety, or another gene there got a bit cattywhompus and no longer
functions the way it’s supposed to.
Take care,
Pam in Niceville
May 25th, 2006 at 9:44 am
Erin, believe it or not, we moderators cannot be on the list every minute. <G>
As Jason said, this board is only loosely moderated - I basically check to
see that a person who is posting is actually not a spammer or porn. I see now
that I probably should have left this person on moderation a bit longer.
Jason and I have both been working on this - I just came back on at the end of
my workday . Jason has stopped some of the emails, and the person who was
causing most of the problems has gone off list.
I think we can get back to our regularly scheduled messages. I’m sorry if
anyone has been upset, and will get tougher sooner next time!!! So, the drill
sargent cap is ON!
Pam
May 25th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Pam,
I realize that you can’t be on here 100% but it seems just here lately I dont
know if its a weather change..lol..or what! but man are they Angry, Beligerant
and down right ready for a fight…I use this list as a way to unwind..i have
two small kids i care for all day everyday and some days this is the only "Adult
Conversation" I can get..so i was just getting put off here lately by what i was
reading..I appreciate the private email and hope that we have better luck with
members in the future..
Erin Scheck
post op 344/272/Goal 180
(-72)WHoooHoooo
surgery date 04/28/03
May 28th, 2006 at 4:53 am
I think it also depends on the type of job you have. I work a "desk job" and
went back to work after 3 weeks. During my first two weeks back I was very
tired by the end of the day, but for me it was better to get out of the house,
otherwise I may have found myself in a bit of a "rut" just laying around the
house all day. As always, all of this depends on the individual.
Jen
260/175/150
Surgery Date 3/3/03
May 28th, 2006 at 10:14 am
Gonzalez is clearly a very angry, bitter person. Let’s not let it ruin our
environment of support & information sharing.
Jen