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		<title>By: Candy Justina</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.bseulf.org/2006/10/26/seeking-opinions/#comment-3937</link>
		<author>Candy Justina</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce is right about some things, but there can be mechanical
failures which can be fixed with a revision, and won't remit with
&#34;counseling&#34; or the &#34;nutritionist.&#34; I'd be sure all the mechanics
are intact first, and then if they are, you can look at what I call
the &#34;soft&#34; support.

Pam in Niceville

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While I am certainly not an expert, the time for a second opinion is

before the operation. Your doctor has a philosophy of medicine,
which I am sure was told to you. Level with your doctor, tell him
&lt;!--more--&gt;
or her about your frustration. Spend more time with the
nutritionist. Begin to look at this more realistically, join a
support group. You are not about to change what has been done, look

forward, the bottom line is that you are responsible for the success

pounds.
&#62; However the next check up a month later, I actually gained 2
pounds. While upset,
&#62; my doctor assured me it was my body adjusting, that I had lost too

much to
&#62; fast, as my 3 weeks in the hospital were completely with NOTHING
BY MOUTH. So I
&#62; just had a check up on Friday, and I'd lost 10 pounds. Now, while

there i
&#62; sn't any thing wrong with losing 10 pounds, and over all I've
actually lost 47
&#62; pounds, my concern is my ability to eat such quantity of food.
While most
&#62; people on this list post surgery talk about the little they eat, I

am quite
&#62; truthfully able to eat, as an example--Sunday went to Texas
Roadhouse. I ate most of
&#62; the salad, a 6 oz/pre cook weight, steak, and a serving of green
beans.
&#62; Easily, no discomfort, no pain. Now that's not such a terrible
meal, but my fear
&#62; is if my pouch has already--3+ months stretched, what's gonna
happen in the
&#62; next 3, 6, 12 months.
&#62; My doctor refuted all of my concerns with my weight loss to date,
looking at
&#62; it as an average of 15 pounds a month, and claimed that most
people do regain
&#62; more normal eating amounts in about a year. My concern is that,
as my ability
&#62; to simply hold more, I'll begin to over eat, and eat the wrong
things, again.
&#62; And Hell, if I could have controlled myself before, believe me,
I'd never
&#62; have gone through this operation, if it was only a matter of
eating what was
&#62; good for me, or just stopping.
&#62; One of my main goals of this operation was the INABILITY TO EAT AS

MUCH, as
&#62; well as from what I hear form people, a genuine reduction in
hunger.
&#62; Unfortunately I tend to have hunger, the kind that in the past,
made me eat to excess.
&#62;
&#62; When I talked to my doctor I found myself &#34;arguing&#34; with another
me it
&#62; seemed. He only saw his point of view, and he was able to dismiss

my concerns. He
&#62; did suggest that I talk to a counselor. Well, I am not at all
interested in
&#62; talking to a counselor.
&#62; Is it reasonable to want a second opinion? Am I just being
unrealistic? Am
&#62; I wanting too much to fast? He claimed that my ability to eat
more than
&#62; perhaps I thought I should physically be able to hold was actually

a blessing. And
&#62; that as long as I was malasorbing, I would continue to lose. So
will I
&#62; continue to lose just with the malasorbtion? I honestly did not
want to be able to
&#62; eat as much as I could before, and in all honesty don't want to be

able to
&#62; eat as much as I can now. And just &#34;watching what I eat&#34; didn't
work for me
&#62; before, so I really don't think it will suddenly work for me now.

&#62; I realize to get a second opinion I'll have to ask my doctor for a

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce is right about some things, but there can be mechanical<br />
failures which can be fixed with a revision, and won&#8217;t remit with<br />
&quot;counseling&quot; or the &quot;nutritionist.&quot; I&#8217;d be sure all the mechanics<br />
are intact first, and then if they are, you can look at what I call<br />
the &quot;soft&quot; support.</p>
<p>Pam in Niceville</p>
<p>_____</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
While I am certainly not an expert, the time for a second opinion is</p>
<p>before the operation. Your doctor has a philosophy of medicine,<br />
which I am sure was told to you. Level with your doctor, tell him<br />
<!--more--><br />
or her about your frustration. Spend more time with the<br />
nutritionist. Begin to look at this more realistically, join a<br />
support group. You are not about to change what has been done, look</p>
<p>forward, the bottom line is that you are responsible for the success</p>
<p>pounds.<br />
&gt; However the next check up a month later, I actually gained 2<br />
pounds. While upset,<br />
&gt; my doctor assured me it was my body adjusting, that I had lost too</p>
<p>much to<br />
&gt; fast, as my 3 weeks in the hospital were completely with NOTHING<br />
BY MOUTH. So I<br />
&gt; just had a check up on Friday, and I&#8217;d lost 10 pounds. Now, while</p>
<p>there i<br />
&gt; sn&#8217;t any thing wrong with losing 10 pounds, and over all I&#8217;ve<br />
actually lost 47<br />
&gt; pounds, my concern is my ability to eat such quantity of food.<br />
While most<br />
&gt; people on this list post surgery talk about the little they eat, I</p>
<p>am quite<br />
&gt; truthfully able to eat, as an example&#8211;Sunday went to Texas<br />
Roadhouse. I ate most of<br />
&gt; the salad, a 6 oz/pre cook weight, steak, and a serving of green<br />
beans.<br />
&gt; Easily, no discomfort, no pain. Now that&#8217;s not such a terrible<br />
meal, but my fear<br />
&gt; is if my pouch has already&#8211;3+ months stretched, what&#8217;s gonna<br />
happen in the<br />
&gt; next 3, 6, 12 months.<br />
&gt; My doctor refuted all of my concerns with my weight loss to date,<br />
looking at<br />
&gt; it as an average of 15 pounds a month, and claimed that most<br />
people do regain<br />
&gt; more normal eating amounts in about a year. My concern is that,<br />
as my ability<br />
&gt; to simply hold more, I&#8217;ll begin to over eat, and eat the wrong<br />
things, again.<br />
&gt; And Hell, if I could have controlled myself before, believe me,<br />
I&#8217;d never<br />
&gt; have gone through this operation, if it was only a matter of<br />
eating what was<br />
&gt; good for me, or just stopping.<br />
&gt; One of my main goals of this operation was the INABILITY TO EAT AS</p>
<p>MUCH, as<br />
&gt; well as from what I hear form people, a genuine reduction in<br />
hunger.<br />
&gt; Unfortunately I tend to have hunger, the kind that in the past,<br />
made me eat to excess.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; When I talked to my doctor I found myself &quot;arguing&quot; with another<br />
me it<br />
&gt; seemed. He only saw his point of view, and he was able to dismiss</p>
<p>my concerns. He<br />
&gt; did suggest that I talk to a counselor. Well, I am not at all<br />
interested in<br />
&gt; talking to a counselor.<br />
&gt; Is it reasonable to want a second opinion? Am I just being<br />
unrealistic? Am<br />
&gt; I wanting too much to fast? He claimed that my ability to eat<br />
more than<br />
&gt; perhaps I thought I should physically be able to hold was actually</p>
<p>a blessing. And<br />
&gt; that as long as I was malasorbing, I would continue to lose. So<br />
will I<br />
&gt; continue to lose just with the malasorbtion? I honestly did not<br />
want to be able to<br />
&gt; eat as much as I could before, and in all honesty don&#8217;t want to be</p>
<p>able to<br />
&gt; eat as much as I can now. And just &quot;watching what I eat&quot; didn&#8217;t<br />
work for me<br />
&gt; before, so I really don&#8217;t think it will suddenly work for me now.</p>
<p>&gt; I realize to get a second opinion I&#8217;ll have to ask my doctor for a</p>
<p>_____</p>
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		<title>By: Candy Justina</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.bseulf.org/2006/10/26/seeking-opinions/#comment-3936</link>
		<author>Candy Justina</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a stretched stoma (which happens and is not the docs
fault unless he made it too big to start with) or a fistula or
staple line disruption, you will be able to eat more than &#34;normal&#34;
for RNYers. You may need a second opinion and a scope to see what
is going on. Maybe your doc just doesn't want to admit that
something might be wrong.

Pam

_____

Hello everyone,

I would like for any one who hasn't felt comfortable with the doctor
after
&lt;!--more--&gt;
the operation or anyone who has gotten a second opinion to please
advise me.
I had my operation on 9/29, on 10/8 was admitted with a leak for 29
days.
That's done, and behind me. During my first month I lost about 30
pounds.
However the next check up a month later, I actually gained 2 pounds.
While upset,
my doctor assured me it was my body adjusting, that I had lost too
much to
fast, as my 3 weeks in the hospital were completely with NOTHING BY
MOUTH. So I
just had a check up on Friday, and I'd lost 10 pounds. Now, while
there i
sn't any thing wrong with losing 10 pounds, and over all I've
actually lost 47
pounds, my concern is my ability to eat such quantity of food.
While most
people on this list post surgery talk about the little they eat, I
am quite
truthfully able to eat, as an example--Sunday went to Texas
Roadhouse. I ate most of
the salad, a 6 oz/pre cook weight, steak, and a serving of green
beans.
Easily, no discomfort, no pain. Now that's not such a terrible
meal, but my fear
is if my pouch has already--3+ months stretched, what's gonna happen
in the
next 3, 6, 12 months.
My doctor refuted all of my concerns with my weight loss to date,
looking at
it as an average of 15 pounds a month, and claimed that most people
do regain
more normal eating amounts in about a year. My concern is that, as
my ability
to simply hold more, I'll begin to over eat, and eat the wrong
things, again.
And Hell, if I could have controlled myself before, believe me, I'd
never
have gone through this operation, if it was only a matter of eating
what was
good for me, or just stopping.
One of my main goals of this operation was the INABILITY TO EAT AS
MUCH, as
well as from what I hear form people, a genuine reduction in hunger.

Unfortunately I tend to have hunger, the kind that in the past, made
me eat to excess.

When I talked to my doctor I found myself &#34;arguing&#34; with another me
it
seemed. He only saw his point of view, and he was able to dismiss
my concerns. He
did suggest that I talk to a counselor. Well, I am not at all
interested in
talking to a counselor.
Is it reasonable to want a second opinion? Am I just being
unrealistic? Am
I wanting too much to fast? He claimed that my ability to eat more
than
perhaps I thought I should physically be able to hold was actually a
blessing. And
that as long as I was malasorbing, I would continue to lose. So
will I
continue to lose just with the malasorbtion? I honestly did not
want to be able to
eat as much as I could before, and in all honesty don't want to be
able to
eat as much as I can now. And just &#34;watching what I eat&#34; didn't
work for me
before, so I really don't think it will suddenly work for me now.
I realize to get a second opinion I'll have to ask my doctor for a
referral.
So on Monday, I'll call my primary care physician and ask about the
process.

Any ideas or opinions?
Thanks
Gloria
303/256/????

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a stretched stoma (which happens and is not the docs<br />
fault unless he made it too big to start with) or a fistula or<br />
staple line disruption, you will be able to eat more than &quot;normal&quot;<br />
for RNYers. You may need a second opinion and a scope to see what<br />
is going on. Maybe your doc just doesn&#8217;t want to admit that<br />
something might be wrong.</p>
<p>Pam</p>
<p>_____</p>
<p>Hello everyone,</p>
<p>I would like for any one who hasn&#8217;t felt comfortable with the doctor<br />
after<br />
<!--more--><br />
the operation or anyone who has gotten a second opinion to please<br />
advise me.<br />
I had my operation on 9/29, on 10/8 was admitted with a leak for 29<br />
days.<br />
That&#8217;s done, and behind me. During my first month I lost about 30<br />
pounds.<br />
However the next check up a month later, I actually gained 2 pounds.<br />
While upset,<br />
my doctor assured me it was my body adjusting, that I had lost too<br />
much to<br />
fast, as my 3 weeks in the hospital were completely with NOTHING BY<br />
MOUTH. So I<br />
just had a check up on Friday, and I&#8217;d lost 10 pounds. Now, while<br />
there i<br />
sn&#8217;t any thing wrong with losing 10 pounds, and over all I&#8217;ve<br />
actually lost 47<br />
pounds, my concern is my ability to eat such quantity of food.<br />
While most<br />
people on this list post surgery talk about the little they eat, I<br />
am quite<br />
truthfully able to eat, as an example&#8211;Sunday went to Texas<br />
Roadhouse. I ate most of<br />
the salad, a 6 oz/pre cook weight, steak, and a serving of green<br />
beans.<br />
Easily, no discomfort, no pain. Now that&#8217;s not such a terrible<br />
meal, but my fear<br />
is if my pouch has already&#8211;3+ months stretched, what&#8217;s gonna happen<br />
in the<br />
next 3, 6, 12 months.<br />
My doctor refuted all of my concerns with my weight loss to date,<br />
looking at<br />
it as an average of 15 pounds a month, and claimed that most people<br />
do regain<br />
more normal eating amounts in about a year. My concern is that, as<br />
my ability<br />
to simply hold more, I&#8217;ll begin to over eat, and eat the wrong<br />
things, again.<br />
And Hell, if I could have controlled myself before, believe me, I&#8217;d<br />
never<br />
have gone through this operation, if it was only a matter of eating<br />
what was<br />
good for me, or just stopping.<br />
One of my main goals of this operation was the INABILITY TO EAT AS<br />
MUCH, as<br />
well as from what I hear form people, a genuine reduction in hunger.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I tend to have hunger, the kind that in the past, made<br />
me eat to excess.</p>
<p>When I talked to my doctor I found myself &quot;arguing&quot; with another me<br />
it<br />
seemed. He only saw his point of view, and he was able to dismiss<br />
my concerns. He<br />
did suggest that I talk to a counselor. Well, I am not at all<br />
interested in<br />
talking to a counselor.<br />
Is it reasonable to want a second opinion? Am I just being<br />
unrealistic? Am<br />
I wanting too much to fast? He claimed that my ability to eat more<br />
than<br />
perhaps I thought I should physically be able to hold was actually a<br />
blessing. And<br />
that as long as I was malasorbing, I would continue to lose. So<br />
will I<br />
continue to lose just with the malasorbtion? I honestly did not<br />
want to be able to<br />
eat as much as I could before, and in all honesty don&#8217;t want to be<br />
able to<br />
eat as much as I can now. And just &quot;watching what I eat&quot; didn&#8217;t<br />
work for me<br />
before, so I really don&#8217;t think it will suddenly work for me now.<br />
I realize to get a second opinion I&#8217;ll have to ask my doctor for a<br />
referral.<br />
So on Monday, I&#8217;ll call my primary care physician and ask about the<br />
process.</p>
<p>Any ideas or opinions?<br />
Thanks<br />
Gloria<br />
303/256/????</p>
<p>_____</p>
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