About Insurance (pls delete if this topic is boring to you or you ca

Dear all,
I thank you so much for the messages, it has been such a help to me.

The problem I have right now is that my insurance company have some
criteria I need to fulfil to get funding for a gastric band operation.
They treat acute conditions, but consider obesity a chronic
condition. They will fund me if I have other co-morbidities or other
symptoms but at the moment I don´t.

They have requested a medical report, and this is the bit I am not
understanding very well…

"the reason that we have requested a medical report is because, as you
point out, this does seem to be treatment to cure an acute condition,
however it would be unusual to authorise bariatric surgery, so we need

to refer this to our specialist medical team. We need the information
requested to check whether the treatment can first be considered, to
check whether this meets our definition of an acute condition, whether
the treatment is appropriately recognised as beneficial to your
condition by the relevant medical bodies (I.E. not experimental), and
whether the condition being treated was not present before you joined
us (by onset date we mean the original date that you first noticed
your symptoms, even if this is an approximate date).

We do not pay for any treatment which is specifically to treat obesity
and nothing else - We treat every case individually, and please be
assured that we look very carefully into whether the treatment
required would qualify for benefit, but as this is an unusual case
these are the most specific guidelines I can give - my advice is to
have your doctor include as much information as possible about your
conditions and why this surgery is recommended."

So…I have a doctor who will write a medical report so that I am able
to get surgery, but what on EARTH do I do? Do I have to make up non
existent problems like hypertension or diabetes or goodness knows what
to get treatment for obesity which for me is an illness i´ve battled
with since I could walk…

Has anyone else come up against these criteria, or these kinds of
problems, and how did you get round it??? My doctor isn´t the problem,
he will write any thing on the report, it´s just that I have to tell
him what to write so that it shows I fulfil the criteria for my
insurance company…it is a bizarre state of affairs I know…

What next??? Hugely confused, thanks for taking time to read this far….

Kindest regards

Lulu

2 Responses to “About Insurance (pls delete if this topic is boring to you or you ca”

  1. Jamey Lancaster Says:

    Have you been tested for sleep apnea? Do you snore? How much overweight
    are you? All these things might come into play. How long has it been since
    you’ve had a really thorough medical check. All these things might come into
    play. I had to pay for my GBS, my insurance was… difficult. So, I took out
    a loan to do it. If I need a revision, I’ll have to pay for it. And I
    might. I’m not sure that a 100cm bypass is sufficient for me – I’ve been
    obese since I was 7, almost 50 years at the time of my surgery.

    Pam in Niceville

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    Dear all,
    I thank you so much for the messages, it has been such a help to me.


    The problem I have right now is that my insurance company have some
    criteria I need to fulfil to get funding for a gastric band operation.
    They treat acute conditions, but consider obesity a chronic
    condition. They will fund me if I have other co-morbidities or other
    symptoms but at the moment I don´t.

    They have requested a medical report, and this is the bit I am not
    understanding very well…

    "the reason that we have requested a medical report is because, as you
    point out, this does seem to be treatment to cure an acute condition,
    however it would be unusual to authorise bariatric surgery, so we need
    to refer this to our specialist medical team. We need the information
    requested to check whether the treatment can first be considered, to
    check whether this meets our definition of an acute condition, whether
    the treatment is appropriately recognised as beneficial to your
    condition by the relevant medical bodies (I.E. not experimental), and
    whether the condition being treated was not present before you joined
    us (by onset date we mean the original date that you first noticed
    your symptoms, even if this is an approximate date).

    We do not pay for any treatment which is specifically to treat obesity
    and nothing else - We treat every case individually, and please be
    assured that we look very carefully into whether the treatment
    required would qualify for benefit, but as this is an unusual case
    these are the most specific guidelines I can give - my advice is to
    have your doctor include as much information as possible about your
    conditions and why this surgery is recommended."

    So…I have a doctor who will write a medical report so that I am able
    to get surgery, but what on EARTH do I do? Do I have to make up non
    existent problems like hypertension or diabetes or goodness knows what
    to get treatment for obesity which for me is an illness i´ve battled
    with since I could walk…

    Has anyone else come up against these criteria, or these kinds of
    problems, and how did you get round it??? My doctor isn´t the problem,
    he will write any thing on the report, it´s just that I have to tell
    him what to write so that it shows I fulfil the criteria for my
    insurance company…it is a bizarre state of affairs I know…

    What next??? Hugely confused, thanks for taking time to read this far….

    Kindest regards

    Lulu

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    _____

  2. Ellen Carl Says:

    Dear Lulu: Brian here. I had what the doctors consider co-morbidities. Five
    of them to be exact. They were all considered chronic and caused my the
    obesity. You have not mentioned what your weight/BMI is. That is also a
    factor.

    You may have some of them and not be aware of them. First was diabetes type
    2. Second was hypertension, third was GERD (gastro esophageal reflux disease),
    4th was cardio myopathy and the final was sleep apnea. These five factors led
    my doctors to issue a statement of medical necessity.

    Since my surgery all are gone except the hypertension which is well under
    control with oral medications.

    I hope this helps you.


    Brian in S Floirda

    The problem I have right now is that my insurance company have some
    criteria I need to fulfil to get funding for a gastric band operation.
    They treat acute conditions, but consider obesity a chronic
    condition. They will fund me if I have other co-morbidities or other
    symptoms but at the moment I don´t.

    They have requested a medical report, and this is the bit I am not
    understanding very well…

    "the reason that we have requested a medical report is because, as you
    point out, this does seem to be treatment to cure an acute condition,
    however it would be unusual to authorise bariatric surgery, so we need
    to refer this to our specialist medical team. We need the information
    requested to check whether the treatment can first be considered, to
    check whether this meets our definition of an acute condition, whether
    the treatment is appropriately recognised as beneficial to your
    condition by the relevant medical bodies (I.E. not experimental), and
    whether the condition being treated was not present before you joined
    us (by onset date we mean the original date that you first noticed
    your symptoms, even if this is an approximate date).

    We do not pay for any treatment which is specifically to treat obesity
    and nothing else - We treat every case individually, and please be
    assured that we look very carefully into whether the treatment
    required would qualify for benefit, but as this is an unusual case
    these are the most specific guidelines I can give - my advice is to
    have your doctor include as much information as possible about your
    conditions and why this surgery is recommended."

    So…I have a doctor who will write a medical report so that I am able
    to get surgery, but what on EARTH do I do? Do I have to make up non
    existent problems like hypertension or diabetes or goodness knows what
    to get treatment for obesity which for me is an illness i´ve battled
    with since I could walk…

    Has anyone else come up against these criteria, or these kinds of
    problems, and how did you get round it??? My doctor isn´t the problem,
    he will write any thing on the report, it´s just that I have to tell
    him what to write so that it shows I fulfil the criteria for my
    insurance company…it is a bizarre state of affairs I know…

    What next??? Hugely confused, thanks for taking time to read this far….

    Kindest regards

    Lulu

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